Alex Collier 1994 Interview – Cosmic History, Aliens, and Humanity

Who is Alex Collier? 🛸

 

Alex Collier is an American author, speaker, and prominent UFO contactee who claims to have had ongoing, lifelong interactions with extraterrestrial beings from the Andromeda constellation. He is best known for providing detailed information about the Andromedans, who he says are a benevolent race, and their insights into origins of humanity, cosmic history, alien civilizations, galactic politics, the structure of the universe, and Earth’s spiritual and political situation. Collier’s claims have gained more interest, due to his New World Order predictions from decades ago coming true (such as a one-world government).

 

Alex Collier’s 1994 Interview Summary 🎙️

 

Alex Collier’s 1994 interview is a long‑form interview with interviewer Rick Keefe. Collier presents himself not as an abductee but as a contactee who has communicated over decades with beings he calls Andromedans, a human‑like extraterrestrials from the constellation of Andromeda.

Key Parts of the Interview:

• Andromedan Contact – Collier claims to have been contacted since childhood (first at age eight) and in more sustained ways from his mid‑teens onward.
• Fourth Dimension (4D) – In 4D reality, thoughts manifest instantly, communication is telepathic, and deceit is impossible. Beings there focus on education, spiritual growth, and unity across 12 dimensions, though they are still seeking to understand God.
• Cosmology and Galactic Politics – According to Collier, the Andromedans told him about a “Andromedan Council” composed of many extraterrestrial races whose purpose is to help life evolve without manipulation.
• Andromedan Council – A political body representing 133 races (out of a potential 1,200 races) aims to support natural evolution without interference. They are concerned about Earth’s slow or negative development, especially after nuclear weapons were detonated.
• Human Origins and Soul Nature – He describes all human life originated from the constellation of Lyra, with human souls originating from outside this universe and discusses reincarnation, spiritual identity, and the difference between spirit and physical form.
• Different Human Appearances – Variations in skin color and physical traits are said to result from exposure to different stars and planetary environments.
• Other Extraterrestrial Groups – He talks at length about other alleged alien groups, including Greys, Sirians, Orions, and reptilian races, claiming various motives from benign to malevolent. 22 alien races have allegedly colonized Earth. Greys (since the 1900s) are divided into benevolent and malevolent types; some are said to manipulate timelines through time travel. Reptilian/Draconian beings are highly intelligent, but control-oriented. The “Orion Group” has been shaped by Draconian ideology.
• Galactic Wars – Collier speaks of the “Orion Wars” that went on for 600,000 years in our galaxy, predominantly between the human race (of which he says there are hundreds of billions of different types of humans) and the reptilian races that coexist in our galaxy, of which there was no winner; they both got so tired of killing each other they both stopped like an undeclared truce (although humanity almost got wiped out, as reptilians are “commendably strong and clever warriors”). After the war, humans spread across the galaxy, including Andromeda.
• Human Manipulation – Humanity allegedly possesses the same latent qualities as these advanced beings, but has been manipulated for thousands of years. This manipulation intensified about 14,000 years ago when the “Orion Group” supposedly altered human DNA. Collier says that our DNA has been manipulated multiple times (linking with scriptures ancient texts) and extraterrestrials like the Greys use time travel to manipulate present events from changing the past. Also, that malevolent Greys collect human negative energy and save it for future use (which links to David Icke’s research and adrenochrome). 
• Earth’s Situation – He argues that Earth is at a critical point in consciousness and that humanity’s freedom and evolution are at risk, due to manipulation by secretive forces and non‑benevolent extraterrestrial factions. He details alleged secret extraterrestrial influence throughout human history, governments, and religion. “If humanity commits to creating an environment of unconditional love, reptilians, and evil greys will have to leave, as evil beings cannot take that frequency.”
• Religious Terminology – Collier says that ‘sin’ is a pre-Sumerian term and that the original meaning of the term ‘sin’ is ‘genetic defect’ (linking to all the genetic manipulation he discusses). We are told that we are sinners and animal-like, but we are in fact divine. However, we are constantly manipulated to keep us unaware of this and disempower us. We are stronger creators than other races and our thoughts and beliefs shape reality, so they try to use us to create the reality they want.
• Intervention Dilemma – Although extraterrestrials (including Pleiadians) have tried to help, direct intervention may hinder humanity’s free-will and growth. However, if humanity endangers planetary evolution, intervention, or even extinction, intervention could occur.
• Philosophical Message – Growth centers on love and self-judgment after death, not divine judgment (linking with insights from Near Death Experiences and other alleged extraterrestrial encounters). All beings originate from elsewhere in the universe via black holes. Collier emphasizes personal responsibility and spiritual growth over fear or worship/dependency of outsiders.  “The love that you withhold is the pain you carry”. 

Collier describes Andromedans as:

• Humanoid beings from from a planet called Zenetae (in a star system in the Andromeda galaxy).
• 4-8 feet tall white to pale blue skin (the same color skin as the alien Jason Sands says he saw).
• Spiritually and technologically far more advanced than humans.
• Operate in higher dimensions (4th and above).
• Benevolent and concerned about Earth’s future.

They allegedly tell Collier about humanity, Earth’s history, and galactic politics, which includes that:

• There are 1,833 reptilian beings living underground on Earth (which links to imagery of hell/Satan is on earth; dark, fire, lava etc.).
• These beings have extremely long lifespans.
• They are carnivorous and allegedly eat humans, preferring children (linking with cannibalism and breeding women like farms in the ‘Epstein Files’ and ancient Khazaria/Satanism).
• They are responsible for thousands of missing children in the U.S. through trafficking for reptilian predation or ritual sacrifice.
• They feed on fear and negative emotional energy (again linking heavily to David Icke’s research).
• They have secretly influenced humanity for thousands of years, manipulating through religion, politics, war, and altering or falsifying history.
• Multiple extraterrestrial races interact with Earth, there are galactic councils, political conflicts between alien factions, and agreements between some extraterrestrials and human governments.
• Humans are genetically engineered hybrids (matching scripts in Ancient texts).
• Earth is a kind of spiritual school (linking with knowledge allegedly taken from other alien encounters).
• Humanity is in a transition period toward higher consciousness and the planet is moving into a new energetic phase.

Here is an image depicting some of the main extraterrestrials Collier discusses; the Andromedans, Pleidians, Arcturians, Draconians, Reptilians, and Greys:

 

Alex Collier’s 1994 Interview Transcript and Video 📝

 

You can read Alex Collier’s 1994 Interview Transcript and view the interview in the video below:

“Yeah, Alex, can you begin to tell us a little bit about yourself in your background? Well, my background is varied. I’ve done, like many other people, a lot of different things. I’ve had accounting practices, I’ve owned commercial industrial businesses.

Currently, what I’m trying to do is I’ve finished three books and lectured across Southern California in the Western States, trying to get out information that I agreed to put out regarding the Earth dilemma, , the situation that we old face here. Unfortunately and I apologize, I’m two years behind schedule. I was supposed to start lecturing two years prior to this.

I’ve really been out since October of ninety three, almost a year. And that’s currently what I’m trying to do. So a lot of my energy and focus has been going towards that. Now you’re in contact with the Andromedans.

How exactly are the Andromedans? They’re a particular race that exist in the constellation of Andromeda. They’re just one of thousands that exist out there. They are the particular races that I talked to and have had contact with and have given me and shared information with me.

Are human mm and they’re white skinned to light blue skinned, anywhere from four feet tall to eight feet tall. And they are human and an inn in every way. Now where did they originate? Alex? All human life originated in Lyra. And when Lyra fell during a war long before it’s it it this one of the stars they’re exploded.

They migrated out of Lyra during a war in order to preserve the race, and they went to different parts of our galaxy. So all human life originated from Lyra originally because of their environment. They will from generation to generation pick up physical changes depending upon the surface and the organic stuff their planet center and so on and so forth. The different colored race skins have to do with genetics involving the stars in which they’re exposed to.

So that’s basically where they came from. So their primary home is Lyra, yes? And is that kr Originally there is a home star? No, there’s no human life in Lyra. So where do they exist now? In the constellation of Andromeda? Okay, throughout the constellation yes, okay, they must be very plentiful. Then there must be a very vast civilization there.

Yes, there, it’s an ancient ancient race. Have they described what their civilization is like here? Yes, they could go into some of the details. That’s what strikes me the most about their civilization. They’re essentially u h no matter where they are, they’re a one world government.

ev . Their society would be approximately forty seven hundred years more advanced than ours on a spiritual level. On a technological level, they’re hunted, they’re fifty thousand years old, well there’s a talent between U and their technology. In other words, the technology they create is based on a spiritual necessity to evolve and not on one to defend themselves, even though it can be used for that.

Now, when you say forty seven hundred years advanced spiritually, yes, how do you measure spiritual advancement in years? I don’t really know. That’s what they’ve expressed to me. Yes, and they don’t even use time in their world. there’s no such thing really, but they use those numbers to accommodate us so that we can use those as a point of reference.

I see, Okay, what do they do? Do they call their world a in their language? They don’t, They don’t speak. Everything is a symbol there. The whole race is telepathic.

I wanna back up just a little bit. There are twenty eight different races there. Not all are human. Many are our dimensional plasmic organic that were there before the human aspect of the andromedants themselves or the lyrons got there and became andromedants.

There’s a lot of life on the different dimensional levels that if we were to go to fifth density, we would be physical on fifth density, even though here we’re on thirty times. Our perspective of them is being spirit so A. You know, in each of the different dimensions there is an abundance of life that is completely different from how we would perceive it, because you know, our perception is of what the third density is like. Even the fourth entity is very different.

But we will have physical form in fourth density. Now is the third density the lowest density or the other lower ? The animal and insect kingdoms would be in planetary systems, , would be considered lower. But to be perfectly honest to you, I’ve not had a clear definition of that cause I haven’t asked. My focus really has been us and where do we go from here? Right? So, now the f What is the main difference between the third density and the fourth density? The real difference is consciousness.

In fourth density, you can pretty much instantly create, what it is that you think, Whatever your thoughts are, you manifest almost instant Well, it’ll be almost instantaneously. so there is a major degree of responsibility in dealing with that. Also, in fourth density, we become more of a group mind. In fourth density, we’re all telepathic.

In other words, everybody can read each other’s minds, which means you have to be real. You can’t have hidden agendas because people will see right through you. Also in the fourth density, , we all become clairvoyant. We’ll be able to see energy, feel life forms, which means that if you’re hiding something, it’ll be seen instantaneously.

They’ve also said that in the fourth density, when we move into that, our court systems will change. Though still , a positive and negative that exists all the way to the fifth density, where you will experience to a strong degree the , the dualities in our everyday environments. What will happen is you’ll have a judge, and you’ll have , a jury who will all be clairvoyance and they will read the energy field and know who’s telling the truth and who isn’t and and everything will be judged based on that will be based on energy, not on words.

When you are in port density, when you walk by somebody or you touch somebody’s hand, you will instantly know everything about them. So again there’ll be no hidden agendas. Everybody will really have to be real. And if they choose to have and continue to play out their agendas, whatever those are, then they will have the space.

But you will know , or people will know. I will know who we’re dealing with instantaneously. Mm. What is an economy and what are the bases under the economy? Is it like a spiritual economy or is it I like the value I’ve heard some people describe their views of other extraterrestrial civilizations as having a spiritual economy, where the amount of psychic energy you put into something is given of value.

Have they expressed any how their social systems are? Work, okay, I know a little bit about that. Essentially, everybody is given exactly what it is they need to evolve. There are many different races.

Each race has their own uniqueness about them based on their particular belief systems. And my understanding is that everything is a belief system. As far as the Andromedin culture, , children go to school or the Andromedins, they go through a birth process just like we do. Those that are physical.

They go to school for anywhere from one hundred and twenty two hundred and fifty years. They’re taught all of the major sciences and arts. There would be equivalent to PhDs or doctorates or masters, whatever you wanna call it, in all of the arts.

It is at that point, once they’re done with all of that education, that they choose what it is that they wish to do or to evolve, and they can change their mind any time they want. The whole purpose is the evolution of the soul and life. They’re given whatever it is that they need to do that. I’m not aware of crime or whatever or or anything along those lines.

Their whole focus is on education and not distraction if it’s something that is not educational, from what I’ve observed, it’s just simply something they’re not interested in. They just have it within them to constantly evolve on an educational as well as a spiritual level. And whatever they need is there for them to use. I’m not aware of them having to pay anything for it.

No, it’s it just to my knowledge, it doesn’t exist. Now. Is art and music important to them too? Yes, all of it is, but those things are very different from what we perceive art is creation.

To them, things that are created out of thought, out of out of the isness what they call isness, the Pleiadians called creation what we call God, things that are created just by thought, by a by nature that they consider art. They use holographic technology extensively. Music. Their music is of the universe.

Of what the music that certain planets make is they rotate around their son, , what different solar systems make as they revolve around their sun, and what whole systems the sounds and and energy that they create. To them, that’s their music. And then they put things together with different constellations, different star systems. They’ll put those together and overlap them to create music.

It’s different from what we just pull out of thin air here. And how have they expressed, , what their daily life is like? ? I am there and there is a solar. Day for them? Or is there a night or day? Or what is their daily life like or per periods. There is really, to my knowledge, no such schedule.

. I’ll give you an example of of what I observed on one of their mother ships. They don’t require much sleep to my knowledge, simply because I guess, , they’re very healed. They’re they’re being sort of physical form.

They’re just incredibly healed. They’re just in touch. There is no night in day h. They don’t need to experience that, although I’m sure other races have that.

The Indromedants don’t. They’re just constantly stretching themselves, , trying to evolve and experience more and more and more all the time. They’re happy people. They don’t have the extremes of emotions that we express here.

In fact, I’ve been told that virtually few races in the entire galaxy express the realm of emotions that we experience here. They’re just always in a very wonderful space. They’re not a civilization that really judges. They do accept things the way they are, with the exception of when those things threaten their particular lifestyle or what they’re about, their essence and what other races might experience or or perceive as a threat.

Alex, you said they’re involving spiritually. W what do they want to evolve towards? What spiritual goals do they have? I guess to be just the best that they are, to be completely at one with all that there is at all times. You know, there are eleven creational densities, and my understanding is that within each of the densities you change your physical form. Their goal as a race is to go from from from the densities that they experienced, which are three, three, four, and five, I guess, to move to five, six, seven, and eight, and then from they’re eight, nine and ten, and then to eleven and now the new dimensional realm that’s being created twelve is just to continue to evolve.

Nobody knows exactly what the ultimate goal is because then the essences that they’re in can talk in touch with that are on ninth, tenth, and eleventh, are continuing to evolve, and now there’s a twelfth density that’s being added to our universe and they’re being drawn up to experience this new density. So nobody really knows what the ultimate spiritual goal is. They themselves are still searching for what God is. They know it exists, but nobody really knows what it is, which is why they call it the isness.

It’s just the force that’s there and e W. And how we perceive it is based on how we perceive ourselves and our own belief structures, belief systems, and that’s how we use the energy to create. Now you mentioned that they’re in contact with essences from the ninth, tenth, and eleventh. Yes, can you describe what they describe these beings to be like to them and what they would be like to human beings? It’s just pure consciousness.

What their daily lives are like. I don’t know. I don’t have any idea. Have they described them at all in any sort of detail?

They just light. It’s light, just light, just light, just light. I don’t know that. That’s all I know Okay, now, , what abilities do the andromedins possess that exceed those of Earth humans.

You mentioned till lot Well, I recie. That’s an interesting question, and I don’t know that I necessarily like the way you put it. The abilities that they have are latent in everybody. They just haven’t lived in a society that has been so screwed with like we have been here.

They’re all telepathic, they’re all clairvoyant, they’re all healers because they’re taught all of the sciences. They’re just they’re their whole. I guess that’s the only way that I can put it to you, is that they’re completely whole. Everyone knows who they are, They know who they’ve been, they know what their reincarnational past has been.

They have a soul having a personal agenda, which every time they incarnate they’re consciously aware of, so they know where they’re going. They see improvement in themselves life after life after life. We if we hadn’t been sold screwed with here, would have the same abilities. We could very much be where they are.

But we’ve been manipulated incredibly for the last fifty seven hundred years on an intense level every day. Our real manipulation really started about fourteen thousand years ago when the Orian group started manipulating our DNA structure. So it isn’t that they’re better, because they’re not. We’re just different.

We’re a little bit behind them because of our manipulations here. But the real bottom line here is we’re all spirit. We contain a soul. That soul is a part of all that is, and that soul has been really trying to be recognized in each of us and it hasn’t been because of the material and the belief systems that we have evolving around us being earth people, about being physical and about the real truths of our essence, of our existence, of who we are, having been blinded from us from our spiritual teachings , from the religions and and us being convinced that we’re something that were not, that were physical, that were animal form, and we’re not.

We’re spirits. Our spirit animates these physical forms period. Alex, what is the Andromedan Council? It is an excuse.

It is a political body that’s represented by now one hundred and thirty three different , races and cultures and planetary systems. There are over twelve hundred systems and planetary races evolving that could be part of the Dramedant Council, but not all of them are. It would be comparable to Earth here to like the United Nations, except it’s not a United Nations in the sense that it has a political agenda.

The Andromedin Council as a body is their sole purpose is to facilitate the evolution of all life in the galaxy. And that’s really what their goal is is to allow all life forms to evolve on their own, , without manipulation. Obviously that’s not occurring here on Earth, and we’re not the only ones.

This is occurring on twenty two other planets in our galaxy. But the other planets are not stuck in the muck that we are to the degree that we are here, and this is a major concern for them, because we’re not. We’re not moving in a direction that we should be moving. There are elements here that are definitely holding us back. And because Earth has become this real prize and not only Earth but does as well.

So I’m getting off a little bit. I wanna stay with their questions. So its overall goals are to elevate spirituality. Of all life forms in their own particular.

Way evolutionary ways, right, that they’d evolve according to the degree of their consciousness. Now, how and why was it first brought into existence Roman. I don’t know. Well, I do know that it was formed.

It was formed shortly after the Orion Wars, which was a huge war that lasted six hundred thousand years in our galaxy, and it was predominantly between the humans, the human race, of which there’s all kinds of humans, hundreds of billions of humans, and those of reptilian races that do coexist in our galaxy. Now, where was no winner, by the way, apparently both sides got so tired of killing each other they just kind of just stopped and and they undeclared truce was formed in I know in in Orion, where there’s a very large group, they have their own political group called the Orion Group, and the humans and other life forms that came together, formed the Andromedan Council and there are others you know, that are that are a small part of each of the of the galaxy, and and other galaxies apparently have their own little groups where people come together and decide, you know, what’s happening, or they communicate with each other. There’s trade, there’s borrowing, there’s a sharing of wisdom, of knowledge of essences so that everything can evolve together. And you know, work in work in in in a in an unconditional love type of of space.

And you’re really lucky to be a lucky person, I think. I know you have a very difficult task, but I think you’re very lucky to be given this wisdom, being very lucky. When did they interact with human beings? On Earth nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty. And how did that begin? In What was the essence of that interaction? Okay, it really all evolved around the Palladians themselves.

. Earth has been the subject of discussion for a long time. What really started the real attention and focus. when we started detonating our first nuclear weapons we did as a race.

, nuclear weapons had been used here in our ancient past hundreds of thousands of years ago. cause there have been wars here between a lot of different factions, predominantly most of them human. The Palladians had agreed to come back here and try to help raise the consciousness of the planet. Well, apparently what happened was when they got here, , they were really faced with their past.

. The Pleiadians had had incredible civil wars amongst themselves and others, other wars, and they had just moved into a fourth and fifth density consciousness, and they didn’t want to come back here and take the warrior space again. And because of the Grays and evolution or involvement here and the Orions and a small group from Serious B and the Orion group and a group from Rigel that are here as well, and others, they didn’t want to come back here and have to move into warrior space. So they started dragging their feet.

In other words, they didn’t do as much as they needed to do. Well, as this is occurring, you know, changes in our galaxy are also occurring, and they’re moving at a much faster rate. So the Androminans finally said, what is happening, what have you accomplished, and the Palladians basically said, you know, we’re having our own conflicts dealing with this because the Palladiants themselves have a tremendous amount of karma with our solar system, you know, with Mars and Earth. They simply just weren’t as motivated as they should be or could have been to start making the changes here.

They also had made some communications with the Earth governments that didn’t go very well at all. Basically they said, well, we don’t know what to do. So the Andromedins themselves said, okay, well we’ll we’ll do it. We’ll take this because it is important for the whole team to make an effort.

Now, the Andromedins were probably the better choice because they don’t have any karma tied to us, so they’re completely neutral and they’re probably better observers as well because of their neutrality. So they’ve basically been taking over. And what they did was they got involved in nineteen eighty. They’re working with the Palladians, with the Syrians.

They have Assyrians from Syria as a service. So what they’re doing here now is they’re trying to raise consciousness. They came back in time to nineteen sixty four to contact me. I’m not the only one.

There are others. There are also other people who are mediums or channels or whatever word you want to add to it, who are also getting information on a spiritual level. Octurnians are also involved. And the whole point is they want our part of the galaxy to evolve, and what’s holding it back is our solar system.

And what’s holding back our solar system is the consciousness of humanity on the Earth. The Earth herself as an entity, spiritual entity wants to move into fourth and fifth density, but she can’t yet because of the consciousness of humanity. And in order for her to do it without humanity, one of the two things have to happen. Humanity either has to shape up, grow up as the endorsement and say, or humanity has to be removed and get out of the way, cleansed exactly, whatever term you want to use.

But those options don’t necessarily involve us using our free will, So that the dilemma that we have, it’s like, oh, we are we are so so entrenched in our belief systems that the reality of our belief systems is being chipped away daily, you know, to what we think is real and , an overlapping degree of thoughts and energy are being introduced that hopefully will open about our perspective enough people’s perspective to the point where we can experience a real leap and consciousness here. And we have to do this quickly. We have to do this by two thousand and one in order to really do their month. between July and August and what’s happened to the probability.

What’s happening to July August two thousand and one. Well, basically nothing. But you know, we’re creating our future, much of our future that our belief systems is being focused on the Book of Revelations, on other prophetic disasters that are to occur. So you’re talking about a self fulfilling prophecy.

Right, we’re literally gonna create it. We’re literally gonna create our own demise because we’re buying into belief systems that say we ourselves are not mature enough, are grown up enough to take care of our own selves. So we need somebody to come in here and take care of us. And that’s an absolute recipe for disaster, because you know who would wanna come down here and save us from ourselves, because then they’re gonna have to tell us what it is that we’re gonna have to do.

We’re not taking responsibility for ourselves, you know. The Andromedans say that, You know, the divine plan is one of freedom. Any savior that comes down here and implements a government to save us, their freedoms will be taken away from you. So that whole system of belief was part of the system of control that was set up in the first place.

That’s right. A lot of it has been gray and Orion manipulations, okay, And if you have time travel, it’s very easy to go back in time and manipulate the future. It’s very easy. And this they’ve done in an incredible way.

You know, they haven’t been here thousands of years, like our government says, Grace has really only been here fifty nine years. Travel capabilities, they’ve gone back in time and they’ve been able to manipulate series of history, historical events to bring us to where we are now, to where we are asking for somebody to come in and save us, and they’re already here. And if we ask because of our free will will you please save us? Well, then we’ve asked for it and we’ve gotten exactly what it is that we deserved. Because we didn’t take responsibility as a race to fix our own problems and to deal with our own problems.

We kept looking outside of ourselves. And you know, this is why the Andromedas are so strong about us growing up and really taking responsibility for it. Now, how many human beings is the Andromeda Council in contact with on Earth? I remember you saying it one time. Four.

To my knowledge, they’re in contact with four. Beyond that, I don’t know. I don’t know if they’re more, if they’re gonna be more. I know there’s one in the United States, there’s one in South America, one in Asia, one in Europe.

But there are other groups that are here, you know, over a hundred and seventy who may also on some level be talking to people and communicating, whether it’s physical or telepathic or through mediumship, you know, dealing with the different spiritual levels. There’s a lot of information that’s being sent down here. Are the findings? Is it effective? Is it working to a degree? It’s not working as quickly as they want simply because most people are incredibly apathetic. M , they’re stuck in their nine to five.

I have to make my mortgage payment, my kids gotta get to school in the morning, and I don’t give a damn about anything else. And unfortunately that isn’t gonna work. It isn’t gonna save you, but it isn’t gonna protect you. There’s so much more going on here, you know, and we are just one small part of this whole picture that’s going on, and we have to wake up.

Period. Now. One of your contacts is a four foot o a L eleven inch light blue skin being called the say us that’s correct, Please describe his or her personality in detail. If I say to us, Well, he’s very serious, he’s very benevolent.

He’s considered a sage in his world. He’s an incredible healer. He has perspectives on things that are just far beyond anything anyone that I know. He’s very direct, he’s very humble, he’s very soft.

, he’s , , very direct. And when he moves into a room like when I’ve walked with him or walked with the others, when we walk into rooms or different areas of motherships, and and in the ships energy changes people. W of course they’re very in touch with energy themselves. They instantly turn and they acknowledge him and they bow.

I guess he would be considered a niche wish or a yahweh ah, an admiral or or a or I don’t wanna use the word god, an elder, an elder you know of tremendous of wisdom and insight, and that they take very seriously what is going on here and the manipulations, the things that the grays Orion’s and the Rectilians are doing here. they’re appalled with what’s going on here. The other one is morenae. Well that means no, let me get to money in a second here.

you mentioned directness twice. With that in mind, what was the most memorable interaction you’ve shared with Pasayas? They’re all memorable, but I guess the single most and well, there’s been two.

One that just occurred, but the prior to that, the single most important one was I had just had a contact and , we had spent about an hour or so together and I was very depressed, very sad, and as i’m I’m I’m leaving the ship, I was crying, and I turned around and and I looked at him, and he looked at me, and he smiled. In his words the love that you withhold is the pain that you carry. That’s been the most memorable one only because of what that particular statement entails when we leave our physical form and w you know what many of the Catholicisms teach you know you’re judged by God. I just simply isn’t true.

We judge ourselves and I and what I read in that statement is that when we cross over, we look at the places in our life where we withheld love that we maybe didn’t give enough, and we judge ourselves on that. So , that’s been the most profound one for me and morone. He’s seven and a half and a half, snow white, skin, hairless. Being h all he’s light blue as well, Oh, light blue ones he’s like blue.

, can you describe him or her? Oh? Can you describe his personality? Then? In detail? He’s serious, but he also has a really good sense of humor. he can snap me out of my depression, very quickly. And he has it’s just a different perspective on u of looking at things. He also tends to be part of their ah, they’re exploratory team in other words, you know, when there are times when they need to defend themselves or they’re confronted with something.

He takes on a military type of role. He’s he’s very very fatherly mm big brother, big brother. He’s also one that you know will show more emotion. He’ll give you a hug or put his arm around you and .

He’s just really really wonderful in that sense. He’s more human in that sense. He’s not as sterile sometimes as to say as w w would appear to be. It’s not that they’re not loving, but you know sometimes the modern day is a lot more animated, you know.

And I can I can yeah, really relate more to him. And I think he can relate more to the emotions that we experience here than the tremendous extremes that we experience. I think he’s a little bit more in touch with that, you know than maybe sometimes for say, it appears to be now. Let me ask, , what was the most memorable experience you’ve had with more names?

I can’t talk about that. Hm, I won’t talk about that. Okay. Now, please describe where and when you were born in your youth.

That’s not something I wanna talk about either, Okay, in detail, because it’s not about me, it’s about the information. Okay, that’s fine. In detail. Please describe your first contact at eight years of age in nineteen sixty four.

I didn’t really know anything about it. I just knew that I supposedly had fallen asleep. And when I walked up it was evening. Everybody had been looking for me, and I wasn’t where I was, you know.

And when I took him back to show more the imprint was . We were playing hide and go seek and and this was in the Peninsula of Michigan, near a woodstock, Michigan, and the people that had been looking for me and I wasn’t there and I got a spanking, you know, because I wasn’t where I was supposed to be and I’d been missing for hours, you know, And , I I didn’t really know what had occurred until the second contact, which was at age fourteen, or I was told what had happened, that they had given me a physical they had given me a suggestion to forget because of my . Family members just simply wouldn’t understand. And they were right, they were worried right about it.

Why was the why was the physical necessary? Well, they do that all the time. They do that to everybody, to make sure that you’re physically fit, because they genuinely care about your physical health, and if there are problems, they wanna make us aware of it and maybe offer suggestions, you know, like maybe you shouldn’t do this, you should do that. Some people are even experiencing healings, and it’s just a genuine caring for acknowledging who you are, not only on a physical level, but on a spiritual level. Now, at age fourteen, what was the nature of that contact? I was taken out of bed and I woke up and I was on a table in the room.

And this was my first introduction to Fassis Morna, at least a conscious introduction. And they were looking down and I had a soul level experience of recognition. There was no fear whatsoever, and we talked and they showed me some things about my physical self. They also gave me a ball which recorded my entire energy field, who I was, who I’d been in past lives.

And as it was recording this, you know, I could see all these different images of who I’d been going across the screen. And they saved this, and this was put into the computer so that they would contact me and could contact me no matter where they were at any particular time that they needed to. I was asked if I wanted to help them. I agreed to do this, although at the time I didn’t know exactly what it would entail.

I had at any time the choice to say no more. but it’s been an incredible experience for me. Eh Alex you , I presume if you had soul recognition and then that you had had previous incarnations with them. This is true.

Do you want to talk at all about any of that? No? Okay, No, everybody on the Earth is from someplace else. None of us were born and hatched here. None of us as souls were created here. We’ve all come.

We all come from another time and place. My understanding is that all of the conscious spirit that’s in this universe came through different black holes from other universes versus in time and space, which we simply aren’t privy to. So we’ve we’ve we’re oh, we’re ancient. There’s no age for us.

We weren’t created with the universe. We came through another universe, through the black holes, to this place that we now call our universe to continue to evolve. That’s everyone, virtually everyone. You know that contact at age fortune was that contact time travel in any way by the androlitins to prepare you psychologically for your future contacts.

Yes, they were all the contacts. Is where they had to come back cause they came here in nineteen eighty alright, so they had to go back in time. And that’s what they’re they’ve done with with a lot of people, the even the Pleiadians to some degree, I understand, have done that where they go back and they start preparing people early for for responsibilities they will have in the future, as opposed to hitting ’em all at once and saying here you go, you know, just dumping on your lap and you’re saying, oh my god, what is this? You know, my whole reality. So there are increments of preparation that have occurred and continue to occur.

And this is occurring with humanity on a whole that I am in in a similar fashion where information is being disseminated and little bits and pieces of ground roots. People are starting to come together and really sensing change. And they’re they’re they’re slowly but surely being brought to a level that when the real truth hits them, they’ll be able to experience it, handle it, and assimilate it. for our good, you know, HM.

Now in nineteen eighty five years, contacts with SaaS and MORENY began to become more frequent. Please describe the nature of your contacts and the content of your discussions and the ways in which you can communicate with that. We don’t have enough time for that, but you know, we have put together a series series one and series two of this information. In nineteen eighty five, it it really started to e the information they were physical that it evolved around the graves, the Earth agenda, our spirituality, religions, Earth governments, Earth history, our genetic creations, the twenty two different races that have actually colonized the Earth at one time or another, and who we have within us genetic racial memories of , within our DNA and present time, things that are occurring now and probable I stress probable future events because the future is being created every day, and it’s being changed every day based on our thoughts.

So I mean, just to sum up it is, I couldn’t. I would need ten hours. Okay, you know that that’s not something I could very simply go into. Okay, but the series of eight and so on and so forth does in fact cover that. Okay, all that information alright.

Now, how does the symbol they gave you play a role in your life? Contacts with the. Symbol? ? Apparently they gave you a symbol that you use. Oh can you wanna talk to them? Want to talk to that? A? The symbol was something that I chose.

Oh, I see. Do they ever talk amongst themselves in a language you don’t understand? ? They don’t. They do, and it’s not really a language. Are they? They’re telepathic and and yes they they they’ll they’ll stand in circles when they’re talking, and and when when they do talk, flashes of light where their third eye is right here, different flashes of colors, colors that we don’t even have on our our third densities back and just appear.

And they’re just boom boom boom boom boom, flashing all this color. And it’s like instantaneous sentences for being just communicated. And there’s some sometimes there’s nodding. Sometimes there’s nodding this way, sometimes up and down.

Sometimes you know, there’s gestures, but all the time there’s just flashes, and their flashes are their language. It’s rare that I’ve been privy to what it is because they have been so fast I couldn’t assimilate it. So the universal gestures that yes. Yes, all human beings are very animated.

Yes, they smile. They also frown, and they also look very sad when something is distressing them. So they do experience it, you know, they do experience emotions, but not to the degree that we do. After they’ve had their discussions, usually most of the time it’s money, and he’ll talk to me like I’m talking to you.

He’ll actually go to great lengths to speak to me, or sometimes it’s just telepathic, you know, and he’ll just look at me and and for a while there I wasn’t always getting the message because I was so focused on the color that was flashing in front I was watching. Now I was like, Wow, this is really amazing. Yeah, but then sometimes I’d have to repeat it. But now that kind of novelty has worn off, so now I listen to the message and I Fasayas are almost always telepathic.

So that’s what they do. What do they ask you to do in order to help them? Just to disseminate information. I’ve i’ve i’ve. I’m currently in the process of trying to investigate all of the current UFO information that’s out there, and what I’ve had the ability to do is to sometimes check it with them, well is this true? Is that true? And they said yes or they said no.

There’s a lot of disinformation out there. So what I’ve been trying to do is just to assimilate what Israel and give it from their perspective of how it affects us. We have a real mess on our hands. So let’s talk about some of that.

According to your Angolitine sources, there are three groups of extraterrestrials who are involved in very distressing agendas here on Earth. What are the renegade Gray Skins Zata reticulars? Another is the Giza Intelligence formerly of the Plaides, and a third is there Italians from Alpha Direconis. Is there another yes? Okay, , there’s the Orion group as well, and there’s a hundred and forty one of them here and they’re from Ursa minor, Ursa major, Rigel and Betelgeist.

. From that particular group, that particular area of the star system. There are a lot of agendas here, hidden agendas and y. You have to understand that some of the races for example, the Draconis, the Draconans themselves did not evolve as a life form in our universe.

They were dumbed here. They were brought here because they’re just a pain. They’re incredibly smart, they’re incredibly psychic, they’re incredible builders, but they’re bullies. Their whole thing is control domination.

And because there’s no race in our universe that can really beat them up and wipe them out. They don’t have to choose light or dark. They’re just where they are, and they’ve chosen the opposite polarity. They’re a tough bunch.

They’ve manipulated a lot of civilizations throughout our galaxy. They’re also responsible for the six hundred thousand Year War, which almost annihilated the human kind human species in our galaxy, and they show very little remorse about it. Hopefully they’ll be leaving soon. But the others are life forms that have evolved like the Orions, the Orion Group.

The Orion Group has been genetically manipulated and have been deeply entrenched in draconian belief systems. So they’re carrying that energy or that torch for whatever their agendas are, as well as their own agendas. Okay, the reticulent the Grays. The Grays have also been controlled and manipulated by the Orion Group.

So there is a system, a class system here that’s been established, and this is very common in the non benevolent or regressive extra trustrial structures, where there’s a class system of workers, warriors, administrative or priests, and then the hierarchy the royalty, and the lower you are the worst, you’re retreated. We have a history of that here on our planet as well, right, you know, the cast and and we’ve been taught this by the aliens themselves, right, and the Pleiadians very much were part of that as well for a time, they were very much in that belief system. Well, let’s focus for a while on the renegade Zeta reticulates the agenda, the gray skins Zeta reticulars. Okay, Number one.

I would like to say that you know, there’s a lot of confusion that not all reticulans are evil, that there are some reticulars that are incredible healers, that are incredibly been benevolent. Unfortunately, most of them are getting a bad rap right now because of what the grays are doing. And and you know there are five different subspecies of grays. May I interject you for a moment.

I I’ve heard the phrase long nose gray describing the physical kills. Are not retails, are not the benevolent reticulans. Okay, the benevolent reticulents look like children. So the novel of a malevolent one is the long nose. That’s correct, That’s what I thought that’s correct.

And you know, there’s a lot of information that’s been said that some people are experiencing real benevolent experiences with them, or they’re told that they’re experiencing benevolent behavior when in fact they really haven’t. They just maybe haven’t been regressed or taken deeply into their subconscious to know what is happening. They’re incredible masters of mind manipulation. But anyway, their race is dying.

They have been so genetically altered by the Orion Group that they cannot reproduce. So they were told by the Orion group to come down here, to come in here. This is how it’s been related to me, to come in here and set the stage to break down the social structures so that when the Orion Group and the proponents come back, there are two classes: royalty and workers, which is exactly what they’re doing right here, exactly. Since the beginning of the real administrative This is this is, this is where the focus has been has been on the states singly and there’s been a reason for that, which we’ll cover just a little bit and let me get my thoughts out here, which is exactly what the Grace have been told.

To do, and they’re doing it. In the meantime, they themselves have their own agenda. They see us because of our genetic stock of having the DNA of twenty two different races and the racial memories of trying to breed to cross the genetic bridge so that they as a race can have enough genetic stock to continue to propagate their race, which according to the Andromedans, they’re destined for extinction. What they’re doing is not going to have any long term effects to propagate their race, so they’re desperately trying to do what it is that they’re trying to do before all the other two groups get here.

The Grays also themselves want to be free from the manipulation of the Orion group, just like we as a race want to be free of their manipulation. So there’s this incredible triangle of crap that’s hanging all over us, you know, and all these hidden agendas and and just brainwashing it and bizarre belief systems that are being thrown at us. You know, when they should all leave, not only the good ones and the bad ones, they should all just leave and leave us alone, which is ultimately what the andromedains want, but unfortunately that isn’t gonna happen right now, not until some changes occur. So conscious right, we need to and the first thing we need to do is we need to stop warring with each other.

We need to come together as a race, and no matter what happens, we need to stop all of the political garbage and say, look, when it comes down to the bottom line, all we have is each other as a race, period, And this is our planet, this is our home, and there’s enough of us that are polluting the planet that we need to stop. Because if we don’t stop polluting the planet, we’re not gonna have a place to live. Period. Is there an earth quarantine that the renegades that are reticulars violated? Yes, Now what was the quarantine? The quarantine was as they were supposed to. Well, it’s the same quarantine that evolves that any other evolving planet has no intervention with an evolving race.

But because of our genetic stock, the Grays did it. Now, but they did it in such a way that they didn’t totally violate our free will. You know, they dangled a tech technological carrot to the government, and the government took the bait. They said, sure, you know, for their own reasons, they took the bait, and there was an exchange of technology, you know, and there was a treaty that was signed.

And this is a dilemma that the Andromedin Council has. You know, if the United the State’s military had said go away, the Grays would have had to have left. So was this the Air Force base situation or the Eisenhower situation where he has representatives? Is this the one that took place in the fifties? Yes, okay, yes, alright, and this was what the long Noose grades th. E that’s true.

And there were also two groups there as well, the seventh from Serious b who are still here were also witnesses to this. To add credence to it. Okay, so now and there are also now just to add to this, the Endrominists have also said that in nineteen thirty three, when the Grays really first got here, that they had actually approached the Germans and the Germans said, no, you’re out of here. we already have an agreement.

And apparently the Germans were in touch with Gee’s intelligence. So the Grays left, they didn’t pursue it at all, and they found their next opening here in the United States. Let’s go, digress just a moment. You mentioned serious b .

Do they have a relationship with the Dogon tribes of Africa? Correct? Is that correct? Yes? I understand that there is some ancestral genetic connection there. Okay. And does that play a part in what’s going on here? A global level or is that just a kind of a minor sideline of it.

I don’t think they are. I don’t think at this point they give a damn about the dogons or or or the humans at all. They they all have their own agendas and and the fact that the way we’re being treated, and the fact that there’s like no support supportal government coming supportal information coming out of our government, or any truth that they even want to discuss, like just coming to the people and saying, look, folks, we screwed up. We need your help.

We need to raise our consciousness and start implementing. The fact that they don’t even wanna do that, you know, tells you really you know where they’re at. What I do know about the Syrians is that between service A and Cyrus B.

There is a civil war going on there and a lot of that, and there are also twenty one other systems. There’s war going on in Perseus as we speak, and twenty one other star systems are also looking at the potential. And it has to do with the fact that there is now an uplifting of energy in our universe that’s occurring, and the two positive fears and love are just banging themselves at each other and the intensity is growing, is growing every single moment. So as we’re just a microcosm of that.

Now, as you’re disseminating all this information to us, we should look at all this information in the spirit of love, so we don’t feed any energy into the spirit of fear. Love is the answer, that’s the bottom line. Love is the answer. Love does conquer all.

Love thus moves mountains. It can make the shifts in consciousness, but it starts number one with ourselves, you know. So that’s what all this is going on around is we just need to remember to. Focus on love and love of self and and and and and and and and love of earth, love of sis, of of race. That’s right, okay, that’s right now.

When did the Zita reticulans begin to create their genetic atrocities? Where did this take place on Earth and what have the results been? Well, it’s occurring everywhere. Much of it is currying underground, some of it occurring in the oceans, some of it occurring on the moon, some of it occurring on Phobos, the moon of Mars. It’s happening in a lot of different places.

Is that an artificial moon? Yes, it’s absolutely true that souls are our Moon’s artificial, completely artificial. It was brought here from Earth to Minor apparently eleven l between eleven and twelve thousand years ago for the purpose of being a satellite and a and a and a base, which you know they evacuated some time ago, but it’s now being operational again. And I covered this in the series of eight. It came from the It came from a start system called Hot Top that’s for the for a word that that’s the word they used, Chata And it was the seventeenth planet out of a s a solar system that had twenty one planets, and it was one of four moons and it was brought here.

It’s older than the earth. There are ruins all over it, there are bases underneath it. It’s everything that we’re told that isn’t so. that’s a whole unique story unto itself.

Okay, now, , what are the results of these atrocities, these genetic atrocities being, and are we gonna begin to see more of them appearing? Well? There the Grays are trying to create a sub race that is a blend between human culture, the human race, and their race. What kind of a hybrid’s it? Exactly? They’re they’re they’re not being very very successful. And one of the things that they’re trying to do is they’re really looking for the soul. They don’t understand the soul.

They don’t understand our extremes of emotions as well, because they’re very very different from us. Their experiments haven’t been all that successful. There are a lot of emotional problems with that because what really makes the human being a human being is our essence, is the spirit that animates the physical foot well, and there’s also another factor, and that is that they actually feed off the energy. They’re vampires.

Their particular grades. The grays right there, they’re vampires. Is this where we get our vampire legends? A lot of our vampires I. Don’t know about that.

I don’t know if that has to do with it, I don’t really know. I wouldn’t be surprised, to be perfectly honest with you. But there they feed off the energy. They can even bottle the energy and use it for later times.

They’re also stealing the vital body of human beings and storing it. So I mean, they’re just doing some really horrific things here that other races just simply wouldn’t conceive of doing. Now, are you familiar with Salvador for Shadeo, No, never heard of it. If he’s a gentleman who proposes is a former Jesuit pro priest proposes the idea that colosseum type sporting events are used to vampire energy off their crowds.

I wouldn’t be at all be surprised, right, it wouldn’t surprise me. Is that like the , the sacrifice of human beings in some ancient civilizations here on Earth, was a form of police system that was set up for these beings to vampire energy off. I wouldn’t be surprised by that either. Okay, war are wars here? It’s it’s it’s the exact same thing.

And and and to all of your viewers, I’m gonna give you some homework. It is an absolute must that you go out and get the book ‘The Gods of Eden‘ by William Bramley. It is an excellent introductory book that will bring you right up to speed with what’s going on. It is.

It is over eighty percent accurate with the information then there and I strongly suggest that people read it. It’s excellent. And that’s excellent. Said, that is accurate revolves around what type of ideas of the.

Reli around the soul and the being that we know is Jesus, which I’m not gonna go into. Okay, now, how were we doing on time? Here? Do you still have some more time? Well? Let’s come here and how or so far? Oh we’ll continue, Okay. You let me know when we have to break. How are the renegade Zeta reticulans able to manipulate Earth’s most powerful governments into a position of checkmated.

Oh, it’s easy. That was that that part was really easy. Number one, their technology is twenty five hundred years more ahead of us. Number two, because of our greed factor, certain groups of power, elite got it, are in time with them.

On a physical level, well, many of them are implanted. Many of them are so implanted that they have now become part of the Gray group mind and the Andromedin is no longer considered some of these human beings terrans as they call us human at all anymore. They’re nothing but clones for what the Grays want, and they pass down orders, they tell others what to do, and of course the chain of command that we’ve established on our planet is exactly what’s happening. Also playing on the greed factor, those who are still human, they look at the fact that, well they’re here, they’re the rulers.

You know, we can still maintain our place of privilege in the world. So we’ll form the new priesthood, which will be the goal between the workers and the gods, just like we saw in Babylon, in Assyria, Egypt, it’s all over again. It’s history repeating itself all over again because. The whole factor, the hierarchy, is the established mode for these negative civilizations too.

Keep their power structure intact. That’s right, okay, you know. And it’s another thing, and there’s also one more factor. It is about human beings out for power, selling out their own world club, just selling out the rest of us, the human race, for their moment and glory, for their privilege to be with the gods, sort of speak, who are aliens? That’s what it is.

To have technology that can take them to the moon, to the technology that can take ’em to Mars, that’ll give them the technology to do time travel. They totally sold out a race, our history, everything for their brief moment in the sun. Now it pisses me off. I’m sure when they look back on their lives afterward, they’ll I would assume that they would regret them at choice.

Oh, I don’t know, I I I don’t know. How will the renegade zoster reticulans have to be removed? It’s good, if we can create, if humanity makes a real commitment to create an environment of unconditional love and simply refuses to hate or to kill each other and destroy our planet. They’ll have to leave because they can’t deal with the vibration. If we can’t, it’s gonna take outside intervention to get ’em out of here.

Period, are the renegade Zeta particulars going to try to deceive humanity with an elaborate religious event. They are staging. The perceived Second Coming. Yes, , I have been told to really be aware of that, that they are very capable of playing out the Second Coming, creating a ah a clone who will look like the image on the shroud of turn , which by the way, was was a f W which was one of their deals.

And this soul will have holographic imprints and information regarding all the world’s religions. He won’t have a soul. And yes, I mean we’ve been let down this path of the Book of Revelations, that this is God’s word, this is the way it has to happen. And you know what, God didn’t write the Bible.

Man wrote the Bible. Period, Ets didn’t write the Bible, but some ets did tell those souls those men what to write. And we have been led down this path where we can totally succumb to our free will to become subservient. And I’m not here to offend anybody, but really think about it, really think about you know, what we’ve done and what our history has been.

You know, we’ve been to this place so many times before and we still haven’t gotten it right, you know, and we’re still not going to get it right unless we do it as a race and just cut out all the crap period. Now hm. That leaves me. I’m gonna jump across.

Do they have control of the world media? Or greed does? Greed does? But I al, I don’t know if it’s done themselves. Well, the the the programming is being introduced and it is mankind that is introducing it to them. So it’s the people that are selling out real. That’s it.

That’s it’s the new priesthood. Okay, you know that’s where the responsibility lies. What would be the outcome if you the beings believe that R renegades data reticulans for the hope of. Mankind, we would know of tyranny and enslavement as far beyond anything we could even imagine.

To put it just quite bluntly, we’ll get s H we’ll never be free again. We’ll never be free again. We will be stuck.

Until we’re rescued by an outside force, we will not be able to break free. That’s the bottom line. And right now we have an opportunity. There is a window of time for us to break free, to do it ourselves, to really make this incredible leap ourselves, so that we can have the benefit of taking responsibility.

For it now in that passion that you talk with right there, that passion that we have if we want to break free, should be manifested into the spirit of love. Yeah, that’s the bottom line. It’s brotherhood. It’s knowing that, hey, you know, we’re a race.

It doesn’t matter the color of our skin. We are a race, and we’re being messed with and in a big way. We’re being manipulated in an incredibly audacious way. They’re just mocking how stupid we are when we’re really not stupid, you know.

But nobody will tell the truth. Nobody will come out and say, hey, you know this, none of this is right. We would have never meant to live this way, and they have no right to come down here and and mess with us the way they’ve done that, you know, and and the real strength in us, in our our own permanent evolvement as a race will come from us standing up, taking a stand and saying, you know what, no way, we’re not going to do this. We’re not going to destroy ourselves for your enjoyment so you can feed off of us.

You know, you have no right to manipulate our governments, you know, to create wars. None of this was right, and that’s it we’re going to. We need to stand up as a race, exercise our free will and say, you know what, we don’t want to live this way anymore. We want to create a real future where our kids will have an opportunity to be whatever they want to live in an environment that’s that’s that’s clean, that’s free, where they can have water to drink, where they can go out and eat fruit, but they can play in the dirt without getting radioactively toxic. All of this stuff that we’re doing to ourselves.

So the people with weapons are the police, the military. These people need to. Be persuaded and persuade them to themselves that they can lay down their weapons, that they don’t need to use them against other human beings, that they can love other human beings, interact with them without violence or power control. I’m not saying that there aren’t some human beings here that definitely don’t have some serious problems.

I’m not saying that at all. There are some who do. But the bottom line is when you look at the whole picture and you go up the ladder, Okay, we are not the enemy. The enemy isn’t human at all, but it’s pushing all our buttons so that we’re so busy looking at each other and so neurotic about each other, we’re not looking at the real the real reality here, the real cause, which is another race or races that are here who are totally playing games with us, feeding off our energy and hoping that we destroy ourselves so that they can keep the planets.

Really, let’s say who it is again. It’s the Orion group. It’s the Orion group. It’s a group that is on its way here now from Alpha Traconas.

They are the real culprits behind this whole deal. Alpha Traconis or Oriyan or both those Alpha Draconis. They’re the real culprits behind this whole thing. Above the Orian, above the Orion group.

Yes, okay, yes, so then there’s Orion, there’s the Orian group. Then you’ve got, the grace. And where did the g’s intelligence fit in here? They were just a group that were totally independent, that came in and did their own thing. They were perceived as gods, and they played the role out and they got stuck in it, you know, they got stuck in the ego part of it.

We’re gods, we can do this, we have all this technology, and they just played it out for all that it was worth. H okay, no, But be honest with you, at this point, they’re not really much of a factor anymore, you know, These Intelligence. They’re not much of a factor at all anymore. What should a human being do if they encounter or renegade and say to rearticulate, what would your advice be? Stand in their truth if you can’t run, stand in your truth and just look ’em, look at ’em.

If they try to project their head and their thoughts into your head. You just stand firm with who you are and you say no, you are not coming into my head, you are not taking me over, and you are not gonna violate my free will. I don’t give a damn who you are. Leave me alone, period because if it’s benevolent they will not try to do it.

They will not try to take you over. They will not try to put crap into your head so they can feed off of your fear. Period. Alright, that’s all.

Can I skip the grays of intelligence, put them on a genus? We’ll go to Alfred. Can we take a short time? Thank you? You know, recD. There’s something else I want to stress here, and that is and this is something that the Andromedance have really stressed.

There is no race any better than us. Just because they’re different, just because they’re more evolved, doesn’t mean that they’re better. We are equal. We’re just not maybe as aware as they are.

But that doesn’t mean that any race is any better or any less. In fact, we’re all equal. No, absolutely not. That’s how we got into this mess in the first place.

That if you want to worship somebody, worship the God within you. That’s it. Worship no one else. And if you’re gonna have a tyrant in your life, let it be that part of you that’s critical of you.

Let that be your only tyrant. Don’t give anybody else any power outside of your physical form to be a tyrant, to control you or manipulate you in any way. Be yourself because if you are yourself, you’re a part of God, and that part of you knows what to do. It knows the right way to live.

You know. And this is really interesting because of our genetic makeup of the twenty two different races and all of the DNA and the racial memories that we have, and the genetics that we have, because of the fact that we are spirit Do you know, and this is an incredible thing. Do you know that the Androminins actually consider us royalty? They consider us royalty. We obviously aren’t acting like royalty, but we’re the only ones in our galaxy that can make the claim to having the genetics that we have and the possibilities and the capabilities of doing what we can do as a race.

We’re the only ones they actually consider every single one of us royalty. Now think about a yes, ah, all beings that would try and be spiritual and raise their spirituality and in asthmas would be royalty. You know. I ah, yes, I suppose that’s true.

Talk a little bit about the ring leaders then, of this whole orchestration that’s going here on Earth. According to your Andromedin sources, there are okay, twenty two races originally colonized the Earth, the first race being the Repatilions from Alpha Draconis. What was the nature of their colony? Here, Well, they’re Hyperborean basically, they’re explorers and they’re also genetic engineers.

They would just colonize. They would take samples, they would hang a flag and say this belongs to us, just like we did with the moon. You know. But so you mean, I mean, weren’t the first ones there? They know exactly what we’ve done? There were explorers and they would just go to a place.

They would see what was there. They would explore, if there were minerals that they needed, if there were other life forms, organisms, whatever it was that they needed they took and then when it was done they had enough, they moved on and just kept exploring and expanding their realm of exploration or territory. And they said they were dumbed here. Originally, they were dumped in alpha Draconas.

Nobody knows exactly where they came from, and my understanding is that even in their ancient history, they don’t know exactly where they came from. But they were left in Alpha Draconas because that particular system offered them the highest probability of survival, and from there they were able to create craft space travel. I mean, they’re magnificent in what they did, and they’re to be commended for what they did. But the fact that they need to control and dominate and manipulate to a certain degree, sorry, I have a problem with that.

And so it is half of the other galaxy. That’s just the way they are. They’re the biggest bully. Nobody can bring them up or wipe them out, so therefore they have no motivation to change.

So that’s the space they hold. And yeh, you know, the Andromeda actually consider them the ultimate warriors, which says a lot. You know, , for whatever reasons. A lot of the bullies end up destroying themselves.

Well that’s something that r may possibly need to happen. We hope soon or I hope soon, you know, cause we need to be free, we need to have our shackles that we’ve been put put around us, let go of so that we can really evolve. And you know, we have awesome potential, we really do. we have been a race. We have been through so much here, we have so many experiences, you know, and because of our emotions, which is really our strength, which really sets us apart from all the other races out there, even the other human races.

You know, we have tremendous capabilities to create things. And you know, but we need to get clear of what’s real and what isn’t. You know. We also need to get really clear about being able to create our own future, to create our own reality and not have somebody say, well that doesn’t work for me, So you’re gonna have to do this, you know, play god and ruler over us.

You know, some responsibility. With any sense of power, with any knowledge, comes responsibility. That’s exactly right. And the divine plan is one of freedom, free expression, free expression, free expression, free expression.

It is not one where they want to implant us and they say you are gonna be a worker, you’re gonna be this, you’re gonna be that. Sorry, that’s not what it’s all about and if anybody tries to force that stuff down your throat, fight it. Okay. So the Androminins tell you that the alpha draconans are here now.

There are eighteen hundred and thirty three of them that have been living underground between one hundred and two hundred miles beneath the surface. They’ve been here. Some of them have been here a long long time. They have lifespans that are thousands of years.

They’re carnivorous. They are not friendly to mankind, at least the ones that are here. Are you saying, carnivorous? They eat humans, yes, and they need to be. They won’t eat a dead human. It has to be alive at the time of the killing.

Their preferences are children, you know, and we’ve been told, we’ve been told you shouldn’t talk about that. You know, there are other people who say, well, you better not talk about the reptilians. Well, you know, bull, you know why not. According to the Andromedus, they’re responsible for thirty one thousand, seven hundred and twelve children disappearing in the last twenty five years from the United States.

These children were food and also sort of just shut up and not say anything about it because people don’t want to hear it. That’s tough. That’s tough, you know, Worcester County. In the last five years, three thousand children in Westchester County, New York have vanished without a trace.

Where are they going? Why are we allowing this to happen? And why should people stay in denial about it? Now? How are they able to do this? How are they able to? How are they able to? How are they able to do it? How are they able to come up out of this underground and do it? Or do they have their tiling systems everywhere that are being helped by the grays And also there are groups within the higher echelon that are actually helping them acquire this. So human beings are abducting the kids and getting them to the grades to and in turn give them to the Alpha dracon. That’s right, that’s part of the deal. They won’t come up as long as we feed them down there.

You understand, it’s about human beings selling themselves out of the echelon attitude here, the needs of the few upweigh the needs of humanity and sorry, that just isn’t right, you know, but it’s going to have to be the humanity that’s gonna rise up and take the stand. You’re just gonna have to turn off your televisions. They’re gonna have to get in their car. They’re gonna have to fire everybody in Washington, DC that knows and does nothing, and they’re gonna have to do something.

You know. This apathy’s gotta end otherwise the way we live is gonna end. Period. I mean, that’s the bottom line, you know.

And I’m not coming from a fear space. I’m really quite angry about the apathy and the fact that, you know, when people give lectures and try to tell this, people want to stand up and fight with them. Look at what’s happening around us. The indications are everywhere everywhere.

The truth is now an obscure thing, you know, the lie is the norm. There’s something wrong here. What’s wrong with this picture? Sorry I’m getting crazy. No you’re not.

You’re expressing frustration. Why are the why aside from the carnivorous aspect to the alpha draconian’s why else are they dangerous to humanity? Because they don’t like us? And what are they willing to do with humanity? Eat us? There’s no need for us. I mean, look, look at where we are. Look at us right now as a civilization, as a society. Okay, they don’t need anything.

They have all this technology that they want. We can’t really offer them except maybe work, do some work for them. But they don’t need all of us to work for them. They don’t respect human life in any way whatsoever.

And this goes back to Lyra, to where the original war started. When they got to Lyra, originally they saw this human race that was plentiful in food, that could grow food, that could do all of these agricultural things. And mankind as a whole is really agri-cultural. We’re really we really as a race, if we were left alone, would be nurturing the earth.

We were living in tribal communities like the Native American Indians. Did you know that’s really our essence, our nature. I’m sorry, that’s really our nature, our essence. And you know, the cities and and and the culture that we’re living in now has totally cut us off from the land from who what our real essence is, which is nature.

And as you know, we’re starting to feed off each other now. It’s so bizarre, you know, I can’t. It’s like when I see the Andromedans, or or when I’ve been exposed to the Palladians, when I see how they live and and and they teach you, and they live with each other and they respect each other. And I come here, it’s like, you know, it reminds me of that sentence that Abraham Lincoln’s, that quote that Abraham Lincoln once said, you know when I’m above the earth looking down, you could be an atheist.

But when I’m on the earth looking up and seeing the heavens, I know there’s a God. It’s like duality. And I think enough of us, more of us, really need to start taking the perspective that what we’re doing here isn’t right. You know, we need to get in touch with what’s out there, with just the whole idea that God, how did we get here? What makes me be here? You know, as opposed to going home after work, turning on TV, watching three hours of television, going to bed, getting up the next morning, going to work, and doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, like robots.

Throw the televisions away, Just throw them away. Okay, what are the physical characteristics of the alphadrekans? What do they look like? I don’t have that. Maybe it’s going to occur. They’re ugly.

I mean they think we’re ugly to you know, and I guess it’s all a matter of perspective and belief system. In my belief system, I’m only taking responsibility for myself. They’re ugly. They’re anywhere from seven to twenty two feet tall.

They can weigh up to eighteen hundred pounds. They’re reptilians. The longer the s the ones that have stubby tails. If you see one that has no tails, he’s of the warrior class or or the worker class.

The longer the tail, the higher their rank. When you see one with long tails with weighted appendances, he’s considered royalty. Whenever you see one, you ought to just run like hell. You shouldn’t approach it, you shouldn’t provoke it.

Just get the hell out of its way. Just get out of its way. Just from you know, there is a way to kill them if you can’t cut off their head. They have two hearts.

There’s one here underneath this arm pit. And one here or if you can’t get to that air and you need to slow it down, you need to hit it right above its crowding area. It has a very large liver. You need to wound it there to slow it down.

It is not something where man to man combat you’re gonna be able to deal with because they apparently have the strength of twelve fifteen men that are incredibly quick, they’re incredibly psychic. They know what you’re gonna do before you do it. And you know if they get here in mass we have real problems, real problems. what do the Andromedins advise human beings to do if they encounter an alpha draconian.

To leave you, leave its space, get away, to get away? What if they can’t. Then they can’t And if they can’t, , they’ll usually be killed. And what do they have they the Draminians said spoken, and and you can talk about what a human being should do if they are in that position. For karmic purposes, for look at that that that that’s that’s not karmic at all, or a lot of these you know a lot of this metaphysical stuff, or you know where you chose to be here a lot of You know, in some situations that’s true when you’re creating your reality and in your space.

But when you’re being invaded, that’s not karma. That’s a violation of free will. You know, if your free will is being violated, Alex, what should you do? You should? You should ask for help? Ask for help. Put a call up to God, put a call up to Heaven, put a call to the Andromedas, the Pleiadians, whomever.

Just put a call up and just deal with it. You know, I don’t know. I mean, that’s just the nature of the beast. They don’t like us.

We’re considered a food source for them, for them, you know, we’re a food source for grace, but in an entirely different way. Have they taught us to be carnivorous through their belief systems? Have they taught us to eat meat and eat flesh? h ? Well, it lowers the body’s vibration. It lowers the body’s vibration. So if our body vibrated at a higher length, we would spiritually be evolving regardless of what our religions are teaching us and they can’t have that.

They can’t have us being free, they can us not being in control, because then we’re responsible for ourselves. So as we move away from eating meat and more towards vegetarianism, we begin to raise our vibrational level and break this cycle. It helps. Not everybody has to stop eating meat.

It’s not an absolute requirement. It certainly helps, but some people’s belief systems will be that they just need a piece of meat, and for whatever their reasons are. That’s fine. If you want to eat meat, that’s fine.

But you know what feeds your mind, mind with spirit, with questions about existence, about what it is we’re doing here, why we’re here, what the hell is really going on? Why is it that I have all these material things and I’m still miserable in my life? Well, you know, I know that a lot of people have questions. Where are some of the truthful answers? You mentioned one of ‘The Gods of Eden‘ that you felt really strongly about. What other sources are there that you feel that we have access to aside from our inner selves, which is actually the best place to probably begin looking. But are there other starting points that people can t use that you know of.

I mentioned ‘The Gods of Eden‘. George Andrews’s books, ET’s among Us. There’s a lot of information in there that not only deals with pets, but also the world political government, which right now is very dangerous for humanity because it’s part of the Great Plan. It’s part of their regressive alien plan to keep us in jail.

Okay, do not pass go, but keep us in jail. Oh god, subthingy I draw a blank. Okay, just as you think about it, interjected in cons Okay, you mentioned throwing the television out, our television programs conditioning our youth into accepting these hostile beings. Do you think or is that just human beings doing anything for a buck? If you know, I don’t necessarily know.

I don’t know what you know. But the violence is desensitizing. You know, violence is just a way of life. Now, we’ve been taught that violence is just a way of life.

So when we see really violent acts, oh that’s too bad. But you know, honey, what’s on Channel seven or what movie are we gonna rent tonight? You know, but that’s what it’s come to. And it’s wrong. It’s absolutely wrong.

There is no reason that any of this has to occur at all. It really doesn’t, and it’s and it is in a lot of it is the responsibility of the people, because if the producers in Hollywood are gonna make movies like this and we’re gonna go and buy the tickets, well they’re going to be motivated for the buck to continue to make these kind of movies, where if they spend twenty million dollars and nobody buys a ticket, they won’t be making those kind of movies. So it comes back to people taking personal responsibility for what they think, what they want to believe, and what it is that they want to create. Do the Andromedas really feel that we’ll be able to.

Reach that window right now? It’s undecided, And that’s the scary part. They don’t know what would help push it forward. I don’t know. I really don’t know, except for just, you know, start listening to people that are talking, start really paying attention to what’s going on.

You know, my grandfather used to have a saying, believe nothing that you hear in half of what you see. You know, I wouldn’t believe a thing that comes out of Washington, DC. In fact, it’s my own personal belief that this next election that’s coming up next year in November, that every American should march on Washington, DC and should fire every single person that’s there. They have run this country into the ground.

They have totally sold us out to the United Nations for a buck, you know, for the debt, and you know, even the monetary system. It’s just a belief system. We could change that tomorrow if we wanted to. I mean, we’re so intelligent, we could create something different, you know, but we’re believab Oh, we’ve got to have this money.

Do you know that we’re the only race, the only race in our galaxy where people starve, that people are homeless. I mean, it’s just so full. It doesn’t have to be like this. If you’re alive and you’re on a planet.

And other civilizations, even the draconian races, take care of their own. They don’t sell out each other like we do here. They don’t throw somebody in the street because they don’t have a paper, which is really what it is, you know, the only value on it is what we believe it is. They just don’t have that.

You know, they don’t let children start. They don’t feed grain to cattle that feed twenty percent of the population and let the other twenty five percent that need grain starve. It’s unconscionable. They would never even think to do that.

But we do it here for bucks, for money, for power. That’s part of that condition process that’s been going on for years. That’s part of it. But the responsibility is that there are people that know what ‘s going on, and they play the game anyway.

They don’t have the courage to say, look, folks, let’s deal with the realities here. You know, we don’t have a guy that’s strong enough in office as president to stand up and say, you know what, ladies and gentlemen, we’ve really been sold out. But there are forces within our government, like what Kennedy tried to do, that just flat out want to destroy the United States because we’re too good, because we have too much. Instead of raising the consciousness and the and the life everyday life, that’s the word, I’m looking for, a standard of living of the rep Instead of raising the standard of living that we have to globally, they would rather just destroy the United States to our destroy our standard of living so that we’re comparable to everybody else, So now everywhere as a thorough world nation.

And that’s exactly what they’re doing. And they’re doing it for power, for greed. We’re selling out our own and it’s just it’s something that’s got to be done. Could you describe the human military basis on the Dark side of the Moon, Mars and Mars.

Pros as astronauts and. How the Alpha Draconans fit into this scenario. The Mars Probes, the Russian and the US once they’re gone, they were destroyed. Their history.

There’s no secret here about well, it’s taking pictures privately, you know, And it doesn’t matter whether you believe that or not. It’s history, Okay. March of eighty nine, the Russians took pictures. Mars was invaded.

We had a human colony there of three hundred thousand, so I’m told, one was underground, one was above ground. Adam and Eve are conquered. They’re being taken over. The human beings that are from Earth that volunteered or were kidnapped to go there are in deep trouble.

Many of them have already been eaten. Some of them have already been killed. There is nothing we can do here as a race to help them. So that Mars was conquered by Alpha Jurko.

That’s right. There’s one hundred thousand of them there. They have approximately two and eleven ship scout craft there. They’re in an area underground that is sixty four square miles known on Mars as the area of Tempe Terror.

That’s where their base is. It’s an ancient base that they had. It’s over a million years old and the last time it was in full bloom was three hundred and seventeen thousand years ago. Now, if we begin to train all our telescopes on that, are we gonna be able to see activity going on there? I suppose that we would.

I have a feeling that they are seeing incredible amounts of activity, but they’re not allowed to say it. They’re just not allowed to say it. Nor who’s gonna want to jeopardize going to jail, being ridiculed, being fired, giving up everything. They have to come up and say, well, I’m an astronomer and I was looking at Mars and I saw alien craft, and I know there’s a base there and it’s being conquered by reptilian aliens.

Who’s gonna have the guys to come up. And say it? Nobody in the power lead. Nobody wants to blow their mortgage. Something is going to have to be right.

Well, yes, too late by the time they do it. As ever, you’re thinking. Yes and so, and that’s exactly what the Andromedins are thinking. You see.

You know there are people probably saying, well, God, why don’t they just come down and save us. There’s a lot to that. Number one, if we’re rescued, we don’t permanently evolve ourselves. Number two, we won’t take responsibility.

If something goes wrong, we can always blame it on them. Number three, it doesn’t just change our reality, it changes their reality as well. Number four. The Andromedans and most of the other benevolent races, they don’t want to have to come down here and babysit.

Us. That’s not their job. It’s not their job at all. Now in the way you told me that a number.

Four and I’m sorry. And number five, let me just add this, look at how we treat our earth, look at how we’ve trashed it ourselves. You know, they’re like, why should we come down here and help you when you don’t want to even help yourself or even make the effort. You know, cleaning up the planet we’re giving to government bureaucracies.

Well, well, here’s three billion dollars here, there’s ten billion dollars there, here’s the super fun to clean up toxic waste twenty billion, twenty billion dollars, and the place is getting worse. You know, that’s not the problem. The problem is on an individual level, On an individual basis, just don’t create plutonium anymore. Just don’t create styrofoam, Aney Moore.

Just tell the industries, the cooperations, because we’re the ones who control it. We’re the ones buying the products. We won’t buy it unless you fix it. End of story.

Bury it. We need to change it. It’s our planet. We are the bulk of humanity.

It isn’t the corporations, It isn’t the Fortune five hundred, it isn’t the Committee for three hundred, and it isn’t the Trilateral. We could fire all of them if we had to, period. But it’s coming together and it’s doing something about it. And it’s gonna have to be grassroots and people are gonna have to start doing it soon.

Are these leaders gonna if we do raise up and do grassroots uprising when they ordered the military to quell that like they do at Kent State or any other political demas. They probably will try. They probably will try. You’re absolutely right, You’re absolutely right.

But you know what, let’s take a let’s take an example of the American Revolutionary War. Four percent of the population of the colonies actually rose up and fought the British. Only four percent the rest stayed home, stayed in the pubs, drinking ale doing whatever, and waited to see who would end the war, to see who would win. And then when we won, everybody wanted to take credit for it but it was really only four percent.

Those heroes, and those four percent changed the face of the world. Well two hundred and ten, twelve years, whatever it is. Now, we’re right back at the same place where we’re being called to do exactly the same thing. The paradox here, Alex would be then that if we begin to work against ourselves, that’s going to exactly fuel the whole fire that’s going on.

Maybe for a brief time, it would be until one side surrendered or saw the light. Do you know much about the New World Order? Do you know that they’re building concentration camps to put millions of people in Do you know that the United Nations has got three hundred thousand troops in the United States right now that they’re going to use to confiscate weapons, And they’re selling our active military troops, sending our active military troops out of the United States so they won’t be here when this happens. Are you aware that that’s going on? Do you know that just off the coast, just south of the border and there are crews there are three hundred tons of Soviet military equipment ready to invade.

I mean this is that there are states actually wanting to succeed from the Union. Yes, yes, there are seven different nine different regions. The United States has already been designated to be split up. They’re getting ready to totally dismantle the United States of America.

And you know, the only real part of the United States of America. And I’m so angry with this is Washington, D C. Sixty eight square miles. That’s really all that is the United States.

We are in the Republic of Arizona. People in California are in the Republic of California. It is those separate republics that make up a United States. Washington, d c.

Has totally manipulated everything. We’re no longer the United States with the founding fathers. It isn’t that at all. And you know, in nineteen ninety two the Congress approved the UN Charter.

Well, what people aren’t aware of because it wasn’t printed in the press, in the newspapers, in our controlled media, is that because it’s a treaty, it supersedes the Constitution of the United States. The UN Charter is now the law of the land, not the Constitution anymore. And in the UN Treaty Articles fifty five and number in fifty six. Look it up, folks, prove me wrong.

State that the United States Congress no longer abides by the and has to abide by the US constitutions. As of nineteen ninety two, the United States of America ceases to exist. They just haven’t told the people yet, and they’re not going to tell them until after they have outlawed all weapons, after they have totally regulated the Second Amendment and taken everybody’s firearms away, so you can’t fight, so you can’t stand there and be free anymore. This is all part of the plan.

This is this is why the Andromedans are so strong about trying to make the awareness here in the United States, because not only does the control media, but there are some incredibly strong spiritual essences here people here, you know, And we did this no less than two hundred years ago, and many of the souls that were there then have incarnated again and they’re here. Jefferson is alive, the soul, Franklin’s alive. Kennedy’s back, Bobby Kennedy’s back, Martin Luther King, Andrew Jackson, They’re Lincoln. They’re all back in physical form.

They’ve all incarnated. They’re all here in the United States because right now, this is this, this is where the battle is between light and bark. You’ve got the grays over us. You’ve got the reptilians underneath us, and between us, you’ve got humanity . You’ve got the American people, I mean, all of the world, but you’ve got humanities sandwiched in the middle, wondering what the hell is going on here? Let’s talk for another ten more minutes, Okay, what is.

The ultimate agenda? Then the Alpha drags coins in relation to Earth and to this part. Of the galaxy. They they don’t not want our galaxy to move into fourth and fifth density, , consciousness, because they lose complete power. But it will anyway want it.

Not necessarily. There are no guarantees. There are no guarantees. there’s no guarantee that Earth is gonna go into fourth or fifth density.

There’s no guarantee that the entire galaxy is gonna get there, because if that were the case, they would probably just leave us alone and not give it. Damn, what was happening here? No, you see, the Draconans are third density, they’re physical just like us. They can only move into fourth density by mechanical means. If we move into fourth and fifth density, they’ve lost their playground.

They’ve lost control of what they wanted control. So they’re fighting like hell, trying to get everything back because if they can hold everything back, then again, it’s a form of power of control. Now it’s such a mess. Alex, how do the androns tend to remove the alpha dracornis? And he said the police are the strongest they can.

Can they not apparently, apparently the universe has created its own way of doing that, and maybe this is a good place to end in the beginning. And here’s the history of our universe where it was created. The Big Bang theory is essentially right in its simplicity. But apparently what happened was as if there were vibrations.

As the universe starts to excel in light this way, there are pockets and you have to look at it as a holographic projection of light. When you put a shadow into a light, it creates a variance of the light. Well, apparently what happens is things that don’t ascend or choose to take higher consciousness, they get very very heavy in weight or in light, whatever you want to call it. And as everything starts to exceed up, bulges dips in light are created, infrequency are created, and what happens is negativity forms, because of its weight, its heaviness, forms into these pockets.

Well, what happens is they form a sack. And eventually what happens is those sacks break and because everything is spirit and nothing is ever wasted, they form. When they explode, they cast themselves out and they form another universe, they create a space for them to continue. Well, that’s how our black holes are.

That’s why they were formed. Those black holes, if we could get through them, would be to another universe. They’re portals and it would just explode out. Well, that’s how our universe was created.

Well, because of this new energy that’s being formed, pockets aren’t of resistance, are now being formed all through the universe, and in our galaxy. It’s right now between us and Cyrus. So the way that the aromas pend removed the alpha drag cones. It is basically to try to contain them and in the end, their own energy themselves will suck them into a place of darkness so they can move out into another place.

The Grays, the Orian groups, this is gonna happen. It’s happened before they know what’s happening now. And this is why everybody feels this intense energy. Things are suddenly really starting to increase because it’s simply increasing.

So at a prior. Time, then they were sucked out of another universe into alpha drag coins. Is that basically what essentially when. They were sucked from wherever they were into another universe.

How, somehow that universe or the beings in that universe wherever they came from, said we got to get rid of these guys. And they literally brought them here from their universe and dumped them and said, boom, this is where you are. Because they came here in physical form, which means they had to have been brought here. They didn’t evolve like all the other life forms here have evolved.

They were brought here in full physical form, which means they were created someplace else and dumped here and said, you know your history. Well, in someplace else, then there’s some very irresponsible people. Well, you know, maybe at some point in our eternal history we’ll be able to address that issue, you know, but for right now, we need to address our own issues. Okay, let’s go to the World Club then to end this up in future events.

According to the Andromedins, mankind has been manipulated for five thousand, seven hundred and twenty four years. Human agents must have participated in this throughout history. Who are some of the major players in this deception? You mentioned Hitler and the Giza intelligence. most of the pharaohs, most of the ancient Egyptian gods.

I mean, there’s so many I couldn’t honestly tell you. I mean history is chalk full of it. yea. I think what people need to do is to go back and look at what we call mythology and really start giving it a second look.

. Richard Richard Thompson in his book w although I’ve not read it, I’ve heard others talk about where he does. He deals into the history of things nah. And it’s also important to remember that just because it’s history doesn’t mean it’s accurate history, you know, because it has been proven over and over and over again.

Whoever wins the war rewrites history. They write it to their benefit to glorify themselves. And it doesn’t mean that that’s really what happened. And according to the Andromedins, our next major leaps in consciousness are gonna come from science and archaels.

It isn’t going to come from any spiritual leader or teachings. It’s going to come from something to say, you know what, this here’s the proof, this is true. This is reality, And I don’t know what this stuff is we can’t prove that, you know, and and it’s time we really start paying attention. Maybe at a future time we can.

We can, we can share more, or do another interview or. Something in a specific way. Please describe in detail what the road club is and who comprises it and offers some specific examples of how they’re controlling the rest of us. Well, the banking circles.

Maybe, yeah, that’s all. It’s all revolves around money, the World Bank, International Monetary FUNDAB. I mean, they’ve got the whole world in debt. You know, governments are giving away their mineral rights and perpetuity.

The United States government is now in a position to declare a national state of emergency, suspend the Constitution of the United States, and nationalize. And the reason they will have to nationalize is because our thought exceeds any ability to pay it back. So who are the collectors? What countries are the collectors? It’s not a country. It’s a group of men.

It’s a group of human beings. It’s a group of human rights, the aliens don’t need money, they don’t need an American Express card. So if a man made something. If the rest of us simply say we’re not paying back the deck.

That’s it. We’re starting over. You can forget your whole system, then we can erase that whole thing and start over. That’s right.

If we had a real president in office, and Kennedy was probably really the last one, what he should do is just go on TV and spell it all out. Surround himself with people that maybe he can trust to protect his life. You should get on television, before Congress and all the houses robbing representatives in front of everybody and spend three hours and give everybody a real education. Number one, the Federal Reserve is private.

Number two, our debt isn’t real. Number three? Are they? We’ve gotten ourselves into this big mess because past presidents sold us out for comfort and for money. And apologize and anybody ought to tell, you know, and just say that on nationalizing all the banks under the United States Treasury, we’re going back to a silver standard, just like the Constitution says, and get everybody an opportunity to get back on track here, you know, to maintain our standard of living and just start healing, you know. And then the next thing I would say is, or make sure if there were any POWs alive that they came back home, and I would start healing all of that crap.

The fact that you know that our POWs were sold out because of a debt, because of three billion dollars, when we’ve wasted three billion dollars, or a promise to Vietnam, when we’ve wasted that kind of money on stupid things. Is studying the sexual habits of the TC fly or a frog’s meeting? I mean, it’s just it’s unconscionable that we’ve allowed our government to do this. I, like, forgot about five minutes left. I want to see if we can do some real brief answers to some of these last couple of things, just a real brief.

The United States, Britain, and the Soviet Union, according to your sources, have been building secret technologies and bases on Earth, the Moon and Mars for some time. Where are these bases to be found on the Moon? Where are they? Yeah, they’re on the dark side and. Why do you know what the locations are? What are they called? Yes, the one under Jules Verne. God, I wish I had those notes in front of me.

Let’s come back to that. Okay, let’s tell me they told you anything about Area fifty one or Dull State, New Mexico. Yeah, there was a lot of stuff there. the actual underground base is not underneath Arkaleida, Mesa.

It’s actually twenty miles to the northwest. That’s just an entrance point in and out. This is Area fifty one. This is in New Mexico.

It’s not exactly right there as far as Area fifty one. Yes, there’s a lot of stuff that was going on there, but a lot of that has been moved and it’s now in New Mexico. In the San Dia underneath the Sandia. Laboratory, Diego Garcia Island.

Diego Garcia Island, there’s a base there Pine Gap, Diego Garcia Islander’s anti gravity anomalies there and this is how they were able to blow a lot of equipment into space without using rockets. And then they would have the UFO type craft, which we built from technology we were given. They would hook a toe chin to it and like a toe BArch, just tow it to the moon and it runs. And the equipment that’s there is run on free energy.

Stuff that was built in the night that was created in the nineteen twenties that we’ve been absolutely not privy to. We haven’t had to pump one gallon of oil out of the ground since nineteenth. Since the late nineteen twenties, they’ve had free energy, but because of money, they’ve been controlled. They’ve allowed us to pollute the environment, to devastate the oceans because of trolling products when we don’t need it for money.

Which brings us briefly to alternatives. For when the Martian base fell? Okay, when the Martian based fellow the world government, though those elite figured it out, well, we don’t have any place to go now. The Moon is not set up for long term meditation where Mars is and could be. So what happened was when it fell and they knew we couldn’t get there, they figured, well, we got to do something about here because we have nowhere else to go.

So I was told by the Andromedans that these these these these men who think they’re God, had to come up with another alternative, which was they thought that they could create a controlled polar shift by detonating nuclear weapons or cobalt weapons underneath the self polarized cap, causing to slip, which would cause the poles to slit, to slip, and within a twenty four hour period, you would completely drowned Eighty three to eighty five percent. The population said that they will not allow it. It isn’t gonna happen. If the Earth is gonna do it, it’ll be done by her will on a natural in a natural way.

And that is a possibility in our future. What is the primary message of the Andromedans? Grow up now, open your eyes, open your ears, take responsibility for your life, take responsibility for your planet, and realize this is your home, this is your race, and that if you, if you are sincere in making the effort to evolve, they will meet us halfway. But they’re not gonna come in here and do all the work for us. Their single most important thing is, and I’ll go back to that little saying, the love that you withhold is the pain that you carry.

We have got to start coming together as a race. We have this got to stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated. What can an average person do? I mean, how can we reach out to the Andromet’s prayer meditation? You know, everybody has their own way of praying or or whatever you know, and and and and again. You know, I want to stress this.

The Andromeda’s can help, but they’re not God. They’re not our saviors. We need to be our own saviors. We can ask them for guidance and help, but they’re not God, period.

You know it, don’t stop. Don’t worship them, don’t worship anybody. Worship the God inside of you. What will happen to those human beings who do.

Not make the jump, They’ll go somewhere else. And what will happen to those beings who do make the jump After the jump, they’ll. Move into fourth and fifth tenses. And those of us who survive this, this incredible ordeal that we’re about to really experience, will become new teachers and we’ll be able to go to different worlds and teach what we know and be able to teach other evolving civilizations what not to do and how not to get themselves in trouble.

And I mean, we have an incredible future. If we can get through that, it’s gonna. If ten percent of the population of the planet can really get it together, it’ll create what is called the hundredth monkey syndrome and suddenly eleven, twelve, thirteen percent people will just start getting it. And it’s gonna take ten percent. That’s five hundred, six hundred million people right now, and and and it starts on an individual basis, you know it.

The government’s not gonna tell you, you know, I mean, God, what we could be into. They’re gonna play out the Second Coming. They’re gonna try to present a savior. They’re gonna present project holographic images in space and say we’re here to save you.

They’re gonna do battle. I mean, they’re gonna screw with us big time. Sorry I slipped out that word, you know. And folks, we just got to start paying attention.

Don’t take anything at face value, make improvements. And you know, whether you believe a word I’m saying, it doesn’t matter. If somebody tells you that this is true, I may improve it. If it’s real, it’ll stand up to scrutiny.

If it isn’t, it won’t because the truth can always stand on its own. It doesn’t need help, and it doesn’t need lives to state to stand up, and let’s send it there. Thank you for this time. It’s been a real honor for me, Thanks.”